Remove X11 dependency for Mac OS X

Originator: NO

I do not have a Mac, nor really have any interest in porting to OSX, so
please do not assign this bug to me.

Most all of the Inkscape developers are on Linux, so if a native port of
Inkscape to OSX is desired, it would be best to locate some new OSX-based
developers to contribute to Inkscape.

Originator: NO

"porting" all of Inkscape to OS X is a huge task. Inkscape relies on GTK
and the equivalent of GTK on OS X is Cocoa, which is very different from
GTK. There are two drawbacks in Inkscape not being native:
1- speed and memory usage: Inkscape loads all the libraries it needs when
it starts, this includes GTK in particular and many other libraries. By
comparison to Linux, it takes more time and memory because on a Linux
desltop, all these libraries would already be active and shared on a Linux
desktop.
2- display: Inkscape uses X11 and X11 on OS X is not optimal (because it
is old). Although, on recent machines, the display is usually fast enough
to be very workable. I use Inkscape everyday and it's mostly fine

problem 2 may be solved soon, if more people help to port GTK to OS X
(this is mostly done). problem 1 however will likely never be solved unless
Inkscape is "librairized" much and someone rewrites and interface in Cocoa
from scratch... and that won't be me ;)

I would love to see an Aqua port of Inkscape similar to the NeoOffice
project, at the moment Inkscape suffers from being slow, having tiny UI
elements that are barely readable, and from poor printer support and
output.

NeoOffice for OpenOffice.org is slow. That's why the OpenOffice.org Mac
team is working hard on making a REAL native version of OOo to run quickly
and smoothly on Mac.

About Inkscape, it looks pretty possible: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/?p=34

That video of the native InkScape port is quite old now, but I haven't seen a version like that released anywhere.

Something nobody has mentioned is that X11 is also bad with fonts and doesn't work with the OS X font manager (or has that been fixed now? I'm on an old version of OS X currently.)

Has any process been made on the native OS X port?

Can't you edit comments in this system?

If I would have waited 2 seconds to post, I would have discovered an updated video of the native InkScape compile:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/?p=62#comment-2313

How's the progress coming? Will we see any native option for the .47 or .48 release? Can there be any new development builds posted?

And will the be just for Leopard, because I'm still running Tiger?

There is progress going on, but native OSX GTK is not quite up to release quality yet. Looks like 0.47 will not ship with Native mac support.

Any progress on native GTK?

Any progress looking forward to a native 0.49 or 0.50 release?

A native look and feel would be a good addition too.

Just as suggested by this blog post: http://blog.e-shell.org/60, I think that Inkscape could choose a nice theme, may be based on OS-X or just some that feels fine, and use some technique like described on this other blog post: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/setting-a-custom-gtk-theme-for-specific-applications/ to launch it with that specific theme.

This could be a really improvement for OSX users.

@BrodocK - the pre-compiled and bundled Inkscape.app does already ship with and uses by default a custom Clearlooks-based GTK+ theme.

@suv-lp so is there any progress on Native OS X build? Or maybe some help is needed?

I used to think this was a "nice to have" type request, but since using the GIMP 2.8.2 that has a native version, its so much more useful now that it loads ALOT faster and has apple key based keyboard shortcuts instead of ctrl based ones, that I think this should be a really high priority task now.

7 Years on.

Still on the wish list.

It's time for captain to swoop in and tell us what's going on. I will endeavour to make some progress and update this bug report.

~suv is on the case. They are absolutely pwning it and has a personal dropbox of dmg's that are updated constantly.

https://code.launchpad.net/~suv-lp/inkscape/osxmenu

I think some clarification needs to be made. Inkscape can still be made much more usable on OSX without going fully "native".

It doesn't require porting to Cocoa, which would be a huge task. I believe what GIMP has done is change the dependency from the X11 version of GTK, to GTK+OSX which draws GTK components on OSX without X11.

The other thing they did was change most of the commands from Ctrl-{key} to Command-{key}.

This would be a much smaller task, but provide a very large benefit. Perhaps someone in the Inkscape development community could reach out to someone in GIMP to help speed this along?

@James there are functional ports of Inkscape that use the GTK+/Quartz backend. Aside from some hidden crashes and usability bugs, they work, but I am not sure if they could be considered release-ready yet.

I use both Gimp and Inkscape on a Mac and while gimp still has some annoying issues, it works better than XQuartz

This bug is now being tracked on GitLab: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues/84

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