pagination: feature request

Bug #919952 reported by Nagarjuna
This bug report is a duplicate of:  Bug #170369: Multiple Pages Support. Edit Remove
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Bug Description

For complex scripts as in Indian languages (HIndi, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, Bangla and many others) we do not have a good page layout application. We are currently able to make brochures in Indian languages using Inkscape. However, Free Software community in India is loosing out DTP work for books, text books etc. Ironically even the books about free software could not be made using free software because of this problem. Scribus's does not support Indian languages. It can be used only for English books. We cannot ask users to use free software only for English, and for Indian languages use some other proprietary application. Currently most of them are using Indesign, and some shops use pagemaker. I have no idea how difficult it is to implement this feature in Inkscape. Spke to Felipe Sanches about this couple of times. This feature may not be in your road map for obvious reasons. I am interested in getting this problem solved, and I wish this feature will be there in Inkscape. I can raise some resources to get this problem solved. But, I do not know how many hours of programming is required for this. Please consider this feature.

Tags: svg ui
su_v (suv-lp)
tags: added: svg ui
removed: book desing dtp feature indian pagination request scribus scripts
summary: - pagination: feature reqeust
+ pagination: feature request
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su_v (suv-lp) wrote :

> pagination: feature request

Since you don't mention any further details in the description, is it correct that you ask for the same feature as requested in
Bug #170369 in Inkscape: “Multiple Pages Support - SVG 1.2 Compliance”?
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170369>
and several other duplicate reports?

> But, I do not know how many hours of programming is required for this.

The main limitation is the lack of support of multi-page documents in the SVG 1.1 specification, and the unclear future of a likely implementation in later SVG specifications (SVG 2.0):
<http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_WorkingGroup#Areas_of_Inkscape_Interest>

Have you tested the (externally written and hosted) inkscape extension 'inkscape-pages' which simulates pages using layer groups?
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape-pages/>

Changed in inkscape:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
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Nagarjuna (nagarjun) wrote :

OK. this request can be merged, if that is possible, to Multiple page support. The only additional point is to argue why this feature is so important for us to do the layout using complex scripts. Inkscape must have this either as an extension or built-in.

I will also try inkscape-pages extension to create a book. I do not know the details about SVG 1.2 specs, so asking this question: does this "layer groups" part of the svg specs for handling pages or does it deviate?

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su_v (suv-lp) wrote :

> does this "layer groups" part of the svg specs for handling
> pages or does it deviate?

Note: Neither the current SVG 1.1 specification (nor the roadmap for SVG 2.0) does have a standardized 'layers' feature either:
<http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_WorkingGroup#Areas_of_Inkscape_Interest>

Inkscape has implemented layers as regular SVG groups <g> with an attribute in Inkscape's namespace which makes Inkscape treat them as layers. For other SVG viewers, these are just regular groups, not "layers".

The 'inkscape-pages' extension is based on Inkscape's implementation of layers (groups with a special attributes), IIRC it simulates 'pages' by hiding everything and only showing a single layer representing the current page. Changing to another page must be done with a script (part of the extension).

In short: the implementation is fully compliant with SVG 1.1 but other SVG viewers will neither know about layers nor pages: they will only see several levels of (possibly nested) groups, some of the hidden (invisible), some not.

> I will also try inkscape-pages extension to create a book.

Just a reminder: for now, please report any issues with the extension in its own issue tracker at sf.net.
See the README file distributed with the extension (also displayed on the sf.net site) for documentation and basic usage.

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su_v (suv-lp) wrote :

> this request can be merged, if that is possible, to Multiple page support.

Linking as duplicate to bug #170369 - please add a comment here and revert the duplicate status if you don't agree and think these are different issues.

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