appmenu menu items only appear on mouseover

Bug #726658 reported by Rachel Greenham
This bug report is a duplicate of:  Bug #682788: Improve Unity Global Menu. Edit Remove
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Application Menu Indicator
Invalid
Low
Unassigned
indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu)
Invalid
Low
Unassigned

Bug Description

Binary package hint: indicator-appmenu

Until recently, the menu items of the appmenu appeared for the currently active application at all times. Now, suddenly, they are hidden, and only the application name is shown until the mouse is moved over the space where the menu should be.

I have two machines recently updated to natty; noticed it on one, but not on the other, which had only just been updated from maverick. I was going to post asking why they're different, but then I ran apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade again, logged out, logged in, and the behaviour on the second machine matched the first. So I presume this is the result of a very recent change.

So this may be a complaint about a user interface decision someone has made. :-) The menu for the active application should always be visible rather than making the user guess a: where it is and b: what's on it.

At the very least, could we have a visible configuration item somewhere to control this behaviour.

If you don't like the application name being obscured, why not put the menu to the right of it rather than on top of it? I mean, having gone so far towards making it attractive to Mac users (of which I are one ;-) ) is this just an attempt to Be Different? :-)

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
Package: indicator-appmenu 0.1.95-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-5.32-generic 2.6.38-rc6
Uname: Linux 2.6.38-5-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Architecture: amd64
Date: Mon Feb 28 17:08:01 2011
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Release amd64 (20101007)
ProcEnviron:
 LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
 LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: indicator-appmenu
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-02-28 (0 days ago)

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Rachel Greenham (rachel-strangenoises) wrote :
Changed in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Low
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fishears (johnnyp-ntlworld) wrote :

I'm also affected by this. I'm running Alpha 3 (fully up to date) 2.6.38-7 on athlon i386 with an NVidia GeForce 6200 (nvidia-current 270.30-0ubuntu3)

This bug appears with the Applications Menu and with the new Files & Folders Menu. The resultant panel from clicking one of these menus is usually completely black but occasionally partially populated with icons. In either case, moving the mouse over the panel causes missing icons to appear.

I'm happy to provide more assistance if necessary.

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fishears (johnnyp-ntlworld) wrote :

Sorry - just realised this is something else PLEASE IGNORE/DELETE

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

the behaviour is a design decision not a bug

Changed in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu):
status: New → Invalid
Changed in indicator-appmenu:
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Invalid
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Rachel Greenham (rachel-strangenoises) wrote :

It's a bad decision. <sigh/> no point is there. and preferences are unfashionable.

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patmalcolm91 (patmalcolm91) wrote :

I also agree that this is a terrible design decision. I can't help but wonder what the logic could be behind this. Considering the top panel is taking up screen real estate anyway, and it's completely empty because we can't have applets, why not actually make that space useful and make the fact that menus are there apparent. I don't want to have to guess where the menu items are going to appear when I mouse over the empty panel. Also, I'm extremely disappointed with the lack of preferences and customisation available in unity. If you're going to make arbitrary and poor decisions about design, at least give users the option of alternate behavior.

I've been using ubuntu since feisty fawn, and it is the increasing trend of these kinds of half-baked anti-choice decisions that are causing me to research other distributions. I'm sad to say that if this keeps up, I will be permanently leaving the ubuntu community.

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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

This is not a duplicate of bug 682788: that is about where the menus appear on screen, not about when they are visible.

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