> Thanks for your bugreport. > > Could you please try to run update-notifier with the "--force" option ? > There might be a bug in the 8.04 and 8.10 version that its not honored. > If that is the case, please let me know. Tried it. While the notifier icon appeared the terminal seems to hang. If it is safe to leave a terminal in this condition I could use this option. I reported the results beneath the bug report. This email is just to let you know I responded. [I still do not think this is a real bug, had I known of the Questions area that's where I would have posted my question.] Thanks for the interest. > > ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu) > Importance: Undecided => Wishlist > Status: New => Triaged > > ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu) > Assignee: (unassigned) => Michael Vogt (mvo) > > -- > notifier icon (unprivileged users) not appearing > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288099 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Triaged > > Bug description: > This is really not a bug: it's a design issue and I understand the logic > for the current choice. > > However, under the desktop 6.06 it was possible to have an unprivileged > user see the icon, which I know can irritate some users: Bug #47253 > > But the option was available to hide the icon from such users (which makes > great sense on a corporate desktop). I think the option should be > available under 8.04 to allow a select set to be aware when updates are > required. > > I happen to like the Ubuntu security model where any user is not by > default assigned permanent administrative rights. I wrote about it in: > http://bst-softwaredevs.com/apps/articles/ubuntu-8-04-sudo-user.html and > described a method I thought would allow the update-notifier to be running > on a unprivileged user's desktop. However, I discovered the sudo users > account had to be active, which potentially negates the security > advantages of having a sudo user identity. I have experimented and so far > I have not found a way to give visibility to the notifier without giving > that user administrative rights. > > If such an option does not exist, I suggest that it be consider as an > addition (i.e. a non-default allowing selected non-sudo right users to see > the notifier icon). Unlike the user reporting the bug #4725, I want to > keep the sudo account closed unless I am doing administrative work on my > machine. As the Ubuntu unprivileged user I spend time doing webmaster > functions on my site. Hence, if during that exposure access to this > account is obtained I would prefer not to give an easy escalation to my > root level account. I do take precautions, e.g. my sudo account has a > much more complex password. But my preference is to stay within a low > rights account and change users to perform administrative tasks only when > needed. > > I apologize for being so verbose, however, I am attempted to make clear > that I am only seeking what was available previously as a non-default > option. I think others even in some business environments would > appreciate the same functionality. > > TIA, TxtEdMacs >